Posts by Shining One

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When you pray to God, who answers your prayers, Jesus or Jehovah?

by JH in

13 also, whatever it is that you ask in my name, i will do this, in order that the father may be glorified in connection with the son.

so is it correct to say that if we ask jehovah something in prayer, it's jesus that will grant the prayer, since he said "if you ask in my name, i will do it"?.

i always thought that it was jehovah whom we pray to, and he was the one who would answer our prayer, not jesus.

Shining One

Hi JH,
Knowing the intent of your question is not the direction of my answer, we pray to God Almighty. Jehovah (mis-translation) or Yahweh is God and is rightly used of all three persons of the Holy Trinity. Each has a role in every one of every believer's prayer. Unbelievers simply get no answer, though that does not mean that God will not act in their behalf. God does whatever suits His divine providence!
The promises of scripture have never been for the unbeliever. This is what is robbed from those who are in Jehovah's Witnesses. They are not in any way, shape or form Christians. They deny the deity and the very nature of God.
Rex

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"Raw Abandonment"

by scout575 in

"i continued to pray and seek the face of god, but nothing happened.

why didn't god help me?

i am begging for spiritual help.

Shining One

Hellrider,
Read Romans chapter one...no excuses.
>What about people growing in places where there is no christianity? What about the beduin living in the desert in Africa who knows nothing about christianity?
He recognizes creation, he seeks God, if he settles for anything short of Christ then you know where he goes. What you need is a full study of Calvinism. That type of study will take you some time. An imperfect analogy about being chosen by God would be like a situation where a governor of a state gives out pardons (grace-unmerited favor). The other inmates have the same type of crimes and pay the full penalty.
Then you might study the Arminian take on God's providence. Take your pick, the former leans toward God doing all the choosing and the latter leans toward man having more free will. That's as far as it goes: we only know enough to have the faith that God has settled the question through the sacrifice of His son. God is good-completely and He sets the standards and makes the calls beteen good and evil.
BTW, every other religion teaches that man has to meet all of the rules and obligations then might make it to their version of heaven. For Islam the only way to guarantee salvation is to die while killing many infidels (Jihad). That's why the World's Biggest Cult has so many homicide bombers.
Christianity teaches that God's gift is eternal salvation, receive His son (1 Cor. 15: 1-8), the account is settled, you do good works that are then stored up as treasure in heaven. (1 Cor. 3)
Rex

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Scriptures You Will Not Hear at the 14-05-06 Church Sermon

by scout575 in

"but a certain man named ananias with sapphira his wife, sold a possession, and kept back part of the price, but his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.

but peter said , ananias, why hast satan filled thine heart to lie to the holy ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the field?

( acts 5:1-3 ).

Shining One

>Shazard: The problem with the warnings that God is depicted, in the Bible, as giving, is that he warns people against being killed by HIM.

Assuming God exists, He created us, He determines how long we live and how we die. He is in control, He does not do evil, He allows it to exist within His guidelines. Your analogy is senseless because you don't understand what the Bible teaches. Perhaps you need to study your subject before you even attempt to question that subject?
Rex

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"Raw Abandonment"

by scout575 in

"i continued to pray and seek the face of god, but nothing happened.

why didn't god help me?

i am begging for spiritual help.

Shining One

Scout,
Your big problem is that you have made up your mind and not given them a chance to gain some experience before you try to yank the last bit of faith out a person who has just had all of their beliefs destroyed. People have sometimes been driven to despair or may suffer from cult induced or inherited mental problems. I would not send any JW to this board because of this: too many people here confirm the Watchtower's very charges about apostates. You are as likely to drive them back into the fold of a cult! That's one reason that I said you need to 'get on with your life and quit whining'.
Rex

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"Raw Abandonment"

by scout575 in

"i continued to pray and seek the face of god, but nothing happened.

why didn't god help me?

i am begging for spiritual help.

Shining One

Yes, it's bogus and you picked up the same clues. Rex

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"Raw Abandonment"

by scout575 in

"i continued to pray and seek the face of god, but nothing happened.

why didn't god help me?

i am begging for spiritual help.

Shining One

Scout,
I don't care what weasel forum this came from. Trolls live in clusters.....LOL
Rex

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"Raw Abandonment"

by scout575 in

"i continued to pray and seek the face of god, but nothing happened.

why didn't god help me?

i am begging for spiritual help.

Shining One

You're about as dim as your buddy, Daniel.

>Oh great, we got the shining one. If you listen to him/her, he'd have you believe millions of starving children in Africa have "no right" to an aswered prayer since they have never heard the word of god and accepted Jebeebus as their lord and saviour.
When people have no solid argument they often appeal to emotion. You must be a leftist liberal, you know, the 'knee-jerk' variety...LOL

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"Raw Abandonment"

by scout575 in

"i continued to pray and seek the face of god, but nothing happened.

why didn't god help me?

i am begging for spiritual help.

Shining One

>Oh great, we got the shining one. If you listen to him/her, he'd have you believe millions of starving children in Africa have "no right" to an aswered prayer since they have never heard the word of god and accepted Jebeebus as their lord and saviour.
When people have no solid argument they often appeal to emotion. You must be a leftist liberal, you know, the 'knee-jerk' variety...LOL

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"Raw Abandonment"

by scout575 in

"i continued to pray and seek the face of god, but nothing happened.

why didn't god help me?

i am begging for spiritual help.

Shining One

>Oh great, we got the shining one. If you listen to him/her, he'd have you believe millions of starving children in Africa have "no right" to an aswered prayer since they have never heard the word of god and accepted Jebeebus as their lord and saviour.
When people have no solid argument they often appeal to emotion. You must be a leftist liberal, you know, the 'knee-jerk' variety...LOL
<It's simple - God doesn't answer prayers because god doesn't exist.
Hmmm, you would have to BE GOD to know that. Your second comment is bogus also...
> Anyone who believes he/she/it does exist is in dire need of a saviour, in dire need of the BELIEF in God, not God himself.
Would you like some mustard on your red-herring? You really should shut up until you can actually make an intelligent comment.
>You might as well choose The Amazing Batboy as your saviour.
That comment speaks for itself. Let me ask you, Daniella, Are you in 8th or 9th grade?
Rex

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"Raw Abandonment"

by scout575 in

"i continued to pray and seek the face of god, but nothing happened.

why didn't god help me?

i am begging for spiritual help.

Shining One

>Oh great, we got the shining one. If you listen to him/her, he'd have you believe millions of starving children in Africa have "no right" to an aswered prayer since they have never heard the word of god and accepted Jebeebus as their lord and saviour.
When people have no solid argument they often appeal to emotion. You must be a leftist liberal, you know, the 'knee-jerk' variety...LOL